The Mouse That Roared! / The Snyder Cut (Guest: Matt Fosket)

Musician, Alaska native, and WINE. PROFESSIONAL. Matt Fosket stops worrying, and learns to love the Review Review, and thus talk with us about "The Mouse That Roared!" (1959) Based on the novel of the same title. Starring; Peter Sellers, Peter Sellers, Peters Sellers, and Jean Seberg. This farce begs the questions: What if a micro nation became a nuclear superpower? Can we talk about a movie MUCH longer than it's feature length? How much does Matt's jacket cost REALLY? Is all wine "fine," wine? What are the limits of Amazon “X-Ray?” And, if someone, ANYONE, can pull the rip cord in Paul’s brain?

Plot: An impoverished backward nation declares a war on the United States of America, hoping to lose, but things don't go according to plan.

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Recorded 5/23
1hr 44mins

**All episodes contain explicit language**
Main Artwork - Ben McFadden
'Review Review Intro/Outro' Themes - Jamie Henwood
"What Are We Watching?" & "Whatcha Been Doin'?" Themes - Matthew Fosket
"Fun Facts" Theme - Chris Olds/Paul Root
Lead-Ins Edited/Conceptualized by - Ben McFadden
Produced by - Ben McFadden & Paul Root ("Shelf Help" - Paul Root)
Podcast/Program Concept - Paul Root

Transcript

Hello. I'm Peter Sellers. Hello. I'm Peter Sellers. And I want Peter Sellers.

I'm Paul. I'm I'm Ben. I'm Matt. Here we are. We really we really rehearsed this.

Why is this podcast always two hours? Three hours? It's not three hours. Is it because of the Should I start pushing the envelope? Should we do a three hour episode at some point?

We've never done a three hour episode. It feels like three hours for people. Oh, my God. At minimum. Jesus.

It's like sitting through a Zack Snyder movie. I told Matt that we basically needed the equivalent of a Justice League of his time and I mean like the Snyder cut. Wow, we're on the same page? Yeah. You're you're here for sometime between now and your death.

That's Have you ever watched all of Lord of the Rings? Like the whole Yeah. Everything's good. Extended? Everything's good.

Yeah. I've never watched it. Not not in the, like, one sitting. Never, like We start in the morning and we usually finish it, like, the next day. Because that's how long it is?

Oh, we we sleep we sleep. But that that is a tradition that has become a thing in my household by the way. It is. Me and my wife is the extent of our household. Yeah.

Yeah. We watch we I don't know. Thanksgiving, I always have a dual screen where I watch football too. So you're not actually, like, watching us? Yeah.

It's like a background. Okay. You're cooking with gas, though. I like that. That's fun.

I also cook my turkey with gas. I mean, if I was gonna say depending on which episodes you've heard from us, you could interpret how Ben cooks his turkey with gas in a lot of different ways. Paul's referencing the episode where I farted. Oh. Ben really, really Oh, that one's famous.

Oh. That's our most famous episode. You are a meme. He texted me and he said, mate, I'm having a really hard time cutting out this fart. I was like, I don't care.

It's just I don't know, it doesn't matter. Can we say the show no matter what Matt does? Yeah. Time's saying. Matt, do you wanna talk about Yonder House?

Do you wanna talk about wine? Do you wanna talk about movies? Do you wanna is there anything you wanna talk about? We're just so excited you're here. No.

I can't do anything. Do you wanna talk about you? Oh, I didn't no. I didn't come prepared to talk about myself. What did you come prepared to talk about?

I'm not sure. Okay. In the words of Liz Ellis, all I have to be able to talk about is this movie. Is this one movie? That's it.

What movie did we watch? The Mouse That Roared. Another movie with punctuation. To Wong Foo, thanks for everything. Julie Newmar.

Oh. Exclamation point. What's Rachel? Title of this movie, The Mouse That Roared! Exclamation point.

We might have a problem. What's that? Rachel and I might. Oh. Those are the only movies we like like are actually related films.

You're really into grammar. Yeah. Proper grammar. Big fans of adaptation. There's a period there.

Is it in the in the title? It is. I didn't notice that. I like that. I like that the, you know, you know kind of what you can expect to whatever degree.

In these two very old. With yeah. With the exclamation point, it's like, you can expect to have a rousing time. From 1959? Mhmm.

Nineteen fifty nine. Good year. Had either of you heard of this movie before? I had not. I knew it existed because I like Peter Sellers.

I like Pink Panther. I saw I've seen Casino Royale from the sixties a few times. But I had never seen this movie. I just knew the concept of of the movie was that it was some sort of micronation standing up to I thought it was America, but I wasn't sure. Yeah.

My parents watched it, which doesn't make any sense. Like, I don't think they actually, like, they're not political. Like, they weren't watching it because it was a commentary on current American politics. They liked old movies. It's a great farce just in general.

Like, if you're a person who likes a farce, this is a definitive example of where kind of a lot of stuff came from. Before we talk about this movie though, we like to talk about what we're watching, Matt. We watch cool stuff. And we bring guests that recommend cool stuff. What are we watching?

What are we watching? What are we watching? What are we watching? That's what we do every time. We've never not done it.

We do, like, a hand workout. What are we watching? What are we watching? What are we watching? What are we watching?

What are we watching? What are we watching? What are we watching? What are we watching? What are we watching?

Have you thought about recording, like, a little song that you play? We thought about it, like a clarinet. Yeah. I was gonna do, like, a really cool beat or something, but a clarinet would be cool. I was gonna no.

I if you wanna do it no. No. I can't. I could do a little thing though for you to to play. Oh, great.

Yeah. I would like it. Jazz flute? It's not really my skill set, but sure. Y'all's flute?

We're gonna need you to learn some instruments because we're gonna need a lot of pitch. But I have to be really proficient, so I'm gonna have to take classes. So I'm gonna need someone to fund the That's fine. The We have a lot of money here. Yeah.

Cool. Can you not tell by the, furniture blankets around you? I didn't hear you advertise this before we started. Paul, Ben, what what's your budget? Top secrets.

That's a top secrets. Top Top secrets. That's what your mug says. We're both You're sponsored by top secrets. No.

We Yeah. Something like that. This is this is that's a that's a rabbit hole we can't go down. No. It's a top secret.

It's a top secret. So Paul, what are you watching? I just finished Barry. In my opinion, it is the greatest show in television history. Is that Four Seasons?

Yeah. I haven't seen the new Okay. Yeah. I haven't seen the new season. It just ended last night.

Yeah. Me too. No spoilers whatsoever. It's amazing. Ben and I were talking about The Rock on our last recording and also no.

Dwayne The Rock Johnson. The Rock. Is that a James Bond movie? That could be a podcast. Is it a Die Hard movie?

Is it a Die Hard movie? Is what? The Rock. Like a die like Die Hard. Is it Die Hard on Alcatraz?

Is it a Die Hard on Alcatraz? Is it Sean Connery James Bond? I see. All these little Internet wormhole theories. Is Jar Jar Binks, like, really the Sith Lord that got this all going?

It's one of those kind of things. Oh, that's not real. No. People people think that? Yeah.

The Berenstain Bears, the Berenstain Bears. Well Do let's go over the Mandela effect. Yeah. That's the Mandela effect. That's a whole another that's a whole another account.

What's in Bendji's there? It doesn't exist. Boar mats, like, what is happening? Do you not know how Paul's brain works? There are transitions that happen And if you know how Paul's brain works, you should probably, like, pull the rip cord.

There are transitions that are happening within that happen he's like he's like micro dosing conversations. Among other things. Yeah. Yeah. Of what?

I have never Macrodosed. Another ever in my life. He's only macrodosed. Thank you. I don't do small amounts of anything.

Nothing ever. Not a single time in my life. Barry. Also, we were talking about The Rock. Crack rock, which I like to micro toast.

Jesus Christ. That's normally how you do crack. Our list whoever our listeners are, I I'm We're pretty tame. Tame. Have you done, like, a a sample size to figure out, like, you know, who in Louisiana listens and We have someone in we have people in Europe that listen.

Yeah. We have, like, many dozen of fan. Yeah. And you think they still do? Like, a dozen.

Like, after this? They haven't Like, this is not live yet. Yeah. We have people in in Germany and in London. Yeah.

If we were live, Paul would have been canceled. Like, This is heavily edited. Coming to you live. I spent all my money on that jacket. Out.

Right? Yeah. $4,000 jacket. Come on. You said 1,200, I think.

I mean, that was at least that's at least a $40 jacket. Not really. Back it up? No. But I the rundown.

I rewatched the rundown starring The Rock and Sean William Scott. And, wow, it was just like a big reminder to me of, like, oh, how did The Rock get to the point where he is so insanely huge? He's great in that movie. It's just so super fun movie. I recently had someone start a conversation with me saying The Rock used to give himself, like, call himself box office Viagra.

Did he? I just thought it was a term. I didn't know it was. Oh, maybe it was just a term. Self appointed?

No. It might be. But it might be self appointed. He's a weirdo. He is.

He's a weirdo. I think he's the opposite. If you look at his recent ventures, like, he got kicked out of Fast's franchise. Right? Black Adam bombed.

Triple x was really good. He's not in Triple x. Oh my god. Vin Diesel and The Rock are just merging. Okay.

So I saw I guess this is the time to say I saw Fast x. And it's a really bad movie. I feel like you're processing trauma, like, staring at you like, what's he gonna do? Well, no. It's it's just it's just interesting because, like, Vin Diesel is slowly turning into, like, more of a toe.

Every time I see him, he just looks more and more like just a big toe and like a toe in a vest. That's what I think of or, like, you know, like the like the henchmen in Spy Kids. You're Spy Kids obsession. The movie made me feel gross. Like, after I saw it, I was like, I need to eat vegetables.

That's how I felt watching it. And it's that Jason Momoa is doing wild shit in that movie. And I also finished season two of Yellowjackets. Nice. Which I really enjoyed.

Meh. Well, it's not fair because, you had Rachel on. Oh, sure. And I don't watch a lot of things by myself. You two know each other?

Who? You and Rachel? He wants you to tell the listener who Rachel is to you. Well, we're all we're all on the same page here. Poker Face is great.

Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I love that that show keeps coming up. That makes me happy.

Yeah. And we watch a lot of Avengers, the old show. Oh. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. And Columbo. One more thing. Just, just, you know, it's probably nothing. It's probably nothing.

Just just a really quick question. One more thing. You know what? That was solid. I really like what I really appreciate about Poker Face is I'm kinda stealing this from somebody, but each episode is self contained yet the sort of, like, overarching story is slightly weaved in.

And it, you know, obviously, it bookends pretty nicely. But that we're not, like, we don't you don't have to have this deep understanding. Like, if you missed the last episode, you're not gonna, like Right. Miss a lot of shit. One more thing.

You started that with I kinda stole this from somebody. It's funny. You make the assumption that people listen to this and you need to preface. No one will ever Yeah, you can take full credit for it. Don't worry about it.

Yeah. I mean, you don't have to be a good person here. Come on. You can take full credit for it. Steal it.

I don't know what to do. I feel unclean. I need my vegetables. But I like that it I don't really like shows with heavy cliffhangers. Yeah.

Like, I mean, sometimes, but I appreciate being able to watch a show and it exists in itself. You don't have to stay up till four in the morning you can't turn it off. I agree. Sometimes bin binge watching can be tough for me. And I'm similar to you where my girlfriend and I watch, like, a lot of shows together, and she always is ready to start the next thing in between what we're already doing.

And it's like, look. I'm already watching, like, four or five shows with you that are hour long dramas as well as a few shorter shows. Mhmm. I need to get through a couple of those before I pile on because, like, I can't constantly binge these things or watch too many shows because it all starts to mash together in my mind. And then when they do the previous on, you're like, I completely forgot about all of these things that happened.

Yes. I started watching Silo on, Apple. Okay. I don't know. Rep Rebecca Ferguson.

It's based on a serie a book series, which I've read, and I read it a while ago. I read it, like, maybe a decade ago. He reads for pleasure. He talks about it all the time. But I don't remember a lot of it.

So I'm watching the adaptation and, like, it's actually new information. Sorry. That's alright. No. I do this.

He does it all the time. It's the worst. It's not fine. I wanna know about Rebecca Ferguson and Sila. It's fine.

We'll move on. You know what's gonna happen is I'm gonna relisten to this and I'm gonna be like, oh, I'm gonna have to watch that show and then I'm gonna feel even worse. The pilot's actually really strong and Okay. The the book series is really good. So the adaptation so far is keeping me entertained and, like, I don't remember like, I read it a while ago.

So, like, there's things I'm, like, I actually don't remember a lot of it. Is this a is this a, like, a lot of the Apple TV shows where it's week to week? You don't just, like, sit and binge all of it. Week to week. I do kind of like that, but especially, Matt, what you were saying, when it's something and by the way, way to go weaving Columbo in with or just before Poker Face, because I bet that makes that watch, like, so fun.

But that there's, like, there's a through line in Pokerface. Right? Like but mostly, it's just week to week, story to story, town to town. It's all, like, more insular, which I I prefer that too. I understand the draw of the other one.

It's just, like, I work a lot. I don't want to start watching something at 11:00. At three be, like, I have to be up in, like, two and a half hours or something. You know, like, I don't like that feeling Right. As opposed to being able to watch something that's a concrete amount of time, you can unwind and then you can decide, do I want to watch another one?

But you're not like, I have to. Yeah. Because some of those shows, like, I have to. I have to keep going. I have to.

I have to know what happens. I'm gonna weave this to the mouse that roared actually. Let's do it. That's the movie we're supposed to be talking about. Part of the pleasure of this movie was like when I was renting it from Bezos.

This is how you find the best. From Bezos. Only the best. Where? From Bezos.

Eighty three minutes. Not a sponsor. Yeah. Not at all. 0% of sponsor.

Soon, we will get the Bezos billions. Player card. There will be ours. Yeah. I have no soul.

Oh. Yeah. I'm ready. I will take your money. We all need that.

This was an eighty three minute movie, so I knew it was gonna be, like, probably and it had Peter Sellers specifically for me. So it was, like, oh, this will be a ginger watch. It'll move. And, wow. I was correct in that assumption, which in my feeling, so that felt nice.

What we really wanna know is, Matt, why did you bring this movie to us? I watched this movie as a kid and I thought it was, like, slapstick humor. Like, I didn't understand it at all. I was probably 10 years old or something like that. And then I watched it again because I remembered it being funny.

Probably, like, an Amazon thing where it's, like, you watch this and then and I was like, oh, I completely forgot about that movie. I should watch it. And I realized what the premise was and just blew my mind. Well, the book was written before that, but just in 1959 that this movie was made and this is what the story was. And the part about California and wine, like, I just thought was the funniest thing in the world, and nobody's ever heard of it.

It gets buried pretty hard, I feel like, underneath doctor Strangerealm. For sure. Yeah. Which is obviously a very different movie, but I don't know if it it probably is made either way, but, I mean, it's obviously a very big influence on doctor Strangerealm. I I wanna say before I think this is the opportune time before we dig into it too deep.

I'm sure Stanley Kubrick has seen this movie. I'm sure Wes Anderson has seen this movie. Steven Spielberg has seen this movie. Mel Brooks has seen this movie. The whole first half of this movie, the introduction of the village or like the country, I'm like, oh, this is a Wes Anderson movie.

The way they're like Yeah. Narrating and introducing everybody and the shots and the colors. I'm like, this is how Wes Anderson starts all of his movies. It feels like the found it feels like a foundational piece for a lot of filmmakers that I really, really love and enjoy. And one of my favorite things in the world is finding that whether it's music or film where you see that original.

Original maybe it's not the first one, but it's, like, that piece where you go, that's where this, this, this, and this came from. Mhmm. And there's no way that these bands exist if it wasn't for this band. Yeah. Original recipe.

I like it extra crispy, which this one is extra crispy or at least people are avoiding being extra crispy. That's, like, the whole mission is we don't want it extra crispy. Yeah. It's no good. I like that it's speaking of the bomb, I like that it's just just Just love it.

Actually shaped as a football. Yes. It's great. It's an oblong. It's so good.

Like, if you were a little kid and you're like, there's an atom bomb and you're like, it's probably like egg shaped but bigger. Yeah. It probably looks like a football. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like a football, like rugby pill, etcetera. Like, it's perfect to just, like, toss around Yeah. Obviously. To play hot potato with.

It's so good. I do love that. The Mouse That Roared, it's a Columbia distributed, now Sony Pictures, High Road Pictures UK based production company. Unrated. Don't be gross.

Don't be gross. High Road Pictures. It's unrated. The rating system didn't exist. There are no boobs.

When did the rating system come out? I don't know. We know what you're trying to figure out where all the boobs start happening. But No. That happened earlier.

There is a boob in this movie, I feel like. Was there? No. I feel like when she's taken This is an unrated. Maybe it's Oh, you had a different one.

Did you you looked up on YouTube? No. I feel like when she's taking a shower, I saw, like, part of a nip. Oh, I did not. You you you have the other Maybe I was just You have no the edited version.

Did you use Amazon X-ray? Is that is that feature different than Amazon? Maybe it was just hopeful. Amazon X-ray, calm down. Either way, unrated, but I paid It's $9.99.

I don't know what to say. Yeah. It's nothing. Did you get the $9.99 version? Did they get you with that one?

Yeah. Yeah. Unrated. With the deep fake, like replaced clips. The movie hour and twenty three minutes as I mentioned.

Budget on this movie, it's all over the place. Estimated between 300,000 and $450,000. What's 200,000? I I saw everywhere from 300 to $4.50. So if you say you saw 200 or 500, I believe you.

Adjusted number for that is 3.9. 3 9 Ben, thank you. You're welcome. Estimated physical rental grosses for US and Canada, Two Million. UK, Two Hundred Thousand.

Total of 2,200,000.0. So rentals were way more than budget, so that's good. But in terms of box office gross, I don't know. What were the other releases this weekend? Rollerball.

Nice. I mean I don't know what came out in 1959. I have no clue. Well, we well, I do have a clue. We'll go over it later.

Anybody One of my favorite movies came out that you list here, but we'll talk about it later. Okay. Aliens? Is it Aliens? Alien It's gotta be Aliens.

The top five domestic films of 1959 beats the shit out of me. I don't know. But some movies that came out Rio Bravo, Some Like It Hot, North by Northwest, Ben Hur, Sleeping Beauty. Ben Hur had to be the biggest grossing. Wow.

I don't know why I didn't just assume that. You know, I should've Four times longer. I'm really obsessed with the length of things. That's what she said. Longest movie ever.

Yeah. Also, longest, biggest, grossing, bestest, mostest mega. Bezos. Where do we meet Faucet Man by The Gazebo? One of the other big movies from '59.

This one normally, No idea. People would say the average, 3.2 if you're a letterbox person. Rotten Tomatoes, if you're a critic, ninety percent. I was surprised how high that was. Yeah.

Audience, 73. I was not particularly actually, I we're gonna get into this very soon. IMDB, six point nine out of 10. For me, I was like, that felt a little low. Amazon, four point five out of five.

Same company. 777 ratings. 66% rated at five stars. 22% rated at four stars. Illuminati, just saying.

Seven seven seven, 20 two percent. No one's as insane as you. I know. It's fun. It's fun for me.

Cool. Is it always fun for you? Not in not in this moment. Alright. Let's talk about the people involved.

First off, RIP literally everybody. Everyone we're gonna talk about, it seems, has passed. So Rest in peace, though. RIP. Yeah.

We're mostly ever dead. I'll just leave you with that. Okay. We're Mostly Ever Dead. Director, Jack Arnold, Creature from the Black Lagoon, The Incredible Shrinking Man, It Came from Outer Space.

Writers, Roger McDougall, A Touch of Larceny, The Man in the White Suit, and Stanley Mann, Conan the Destroyer. Nice. Yeah. Eye of the Needle, and Leonard Wibley novel. It's such a British last name.

Leonard Wibley. It is. It's very British. The director of photography was John Wilcox, Espresso Bongo, I like money, Nightmare. You could have made these up.

Everybody's resume sound awesome, like, based on titles. Like, I like money. Okay. But, also, none of those people are making a living if it were now with those movies. Well, no one's Oh, no.

Not at all. They're all making a dead they're all dead. Well, right. But I'm saying back then they could make those movies and they probably had a career as a producer or whatever. %.

I've never I've heard of two of those movies. Yeah. I mean Like, if that were if they were happening in, like, in modern time, those would they'd be, like, part time. I thought I thought you were deciding between this and A Touch of Larceny. The great A Touch of Larceny.

Because you like Expresso Bongo. Yeah. Whenever we're hanging out spelled? Yeah. Expresso Bongo is how it's spelled.

Expresso. Yep. Which is a different movie than Espresso Bongo. It takes place in battle. This is Yeah.

This is the tenth At a Bongo Cafe. This is the tenth Nobody the x is the 10. You have the dreaded Northwest Dreadlock guy at Espresso Bongo. You haven't seen that movie? One of the great romantic comedies.

The music is in by the fifth movie of Reso Bongo? Yes. Wow. Now you get the titling sequence. The music is in by Edwin Astley.

Never gonna give him up. Never gonna give him up. Never gonna give him up. Oh, actually his great uncle. You made that up.

I did. Sure did. TV themes. That's a real cover TV. I'll never give it up.

I'll never give it up. He did TV themes for The Saint, which was made into the Vin Diesel movie. Right? Same TV show that was made into the Vin Diesel movie. Right?

Same TV show that was made into the The Saint? Nope. Val Kilmer. Oh, that's what I meant. Yeah.

What did I say? You said Vin Diesel. Oh, well, this that's what's happening. That's what's happening right now. We're A very different movie.

We've disintegrated all the way. Vin Diesel has ingratiated themselves into our show, so hard family. I I like that this is another show that he did the music for. Whoops. Baghdad.

So did I. That's why I included it. With an exclamation mark. Yep. He did Whoops, Baghdad.

Whoops, Baghdad is the name of a show that Edwin Astley did the music for. Last music for help. Five episodes. Producers are Walter Shenzhen, A Hard Day's Night, Help, Korea Patrol. I don't Whatever that is.

And then John Pennington who did The Liquidator and Faces in the Dark. Sure. Starring Peter Sellers as Duchess Gloriana the twelfth, prime minister Count Rupert Monjoy. Bebe. Bebe.

Bebe. Pretty good. Bebe. Hey, Bebe. Tully Tully Bascom.

Of course, the Pink Panther series, Casino Royale, Murder by Death, Being There, Doctor Strangelove, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb. Wow. Great movie. I've only ever seen the Pink Panther series and Doctor Strangelove of those. The Casino Royale, Bond 67 farce, whatever that he did is Yeah.

Fun in its own right in my opinion. It's not a it's not great, but it's not. It's fun. Is it actually based on the first Ian Fleming book? Yes.

Very loosely. It goes off the rails. Like, it's like it's he's a spy but it it doesn't doesn't take very long to become something totally different. It's mostly its own thing. Yeah.

Jean Seberg, Helen, how do you pronounce their last name? Cocaine? Cocins? Cocins? Cocains?

Cocains? Doctor Cocains? Cocainum. Paint Your Wagon, Lilith, and Breathless. William Hartnell, who I know as the first doctor.

Yeah. Sure. The year or two years after this film was the first doctor. Yeah. There's a really good BBC movie called the the first Time Lord and it's about the creation of Doctor Who.

And he had been pretty much retired when they approached him to play it. And he was like happy being retired, happy not working. Like slowly came out of retirement to play the of retirement to play the doctor. It's a pretty interesting story. The guy who plays Filch in the Harry Potter series, he plays that that role.

He's also he's been a lot of stuff. Game of Thrones, Broadchurch, his name. Broadchurch is one of those shows that I watched so long ago and was, like, in this big glob of murder shows that I'm like, I remember it stood out at the time, but now it's like You're really good, but I don't remember it. Much of it. Yeah.

He was the guy in, like, the first couple episodes that they thought was a pedophile because he ran, like, the kayaking troop with the boys, and then he kills himself. So I remember the last point you made about that that the, like, one or the first early on somebody was it was a suicide in terms of one of the killers was suicidal. If only we could look this up on something. No idea. David Kossoff who plays doctor Alfred Kokintz, Chance Meeting 1984 from 1956 and Ring of Treason.

Leo McKern was Benter who was in the Blue Lagoon, a man for all seasons and Ladyhawk is a movie I know. Yeah. McDonald Park, General Snippet, Shipyard Sally, no orchards for miss Blandish, John Paul Jones, and Austin Willis, who was the Secretary of Defense. He was in Goldfinger, Firefox, and the Boston Strangler. Fun facts about this movie.

A sequel to this movie was released in 1963 called The Mouse on the Moon. That was a farce inspired by the space race. The only central character return was now Professor Kochenz. Have you seen that, Matt? No.

Did you know it existed? I know that they exist. There's four of them, I think. Woah. I didn't know that.

I only found two. It was a book. Right. And this guy wrote it's like a four or five book series. The mouse that something something, but I've never seen the other ones.

Okay. They made a movie out of all of them? I don't know about the I think there's maybe three movies. Oh, wow. Maybe, but if there was a way we could look it up.

I can't. I don't know. I can't help you. It's crazy to do a podcast without any other technology whatsoever. Yeah.

We're speaking into cans. A mic in a cave. Yep. In a cave. That is where we are.

That is how we do this. That is how we get in the zone. Are you in the zone? Are you in the fucking zone? The only way we know this is working is we see our shadows on the wall.

And we know we exist. We make puppets for each other. So much sound treatment inside of a cave. It's true. We work hard.

Peter Sellers made this film in part as a means of emulating his hero, sir Alec Guinness, by playing multiple roles in one movie. I thought he was trying to do like a Nutty Professor thing. You know, his hero Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy. Yeah.

Of course. Jack Arnold soon learned that Peter Sellers did his best work on the first take and was usually useless by take three. I can relate. The actor schooled in improvisation couldn't keep the lines fresh if he had to say them over and over. However, do you know the other side of the story?

No. No, please. So Jean Seberg? Seberg. She is usually best around take 20.

Oh, wow. So she would have been, like, perfect for a Fincher situation or whatever. It's Tom and Tom. Basically, you're like, it'll be from one camera angle, his take, and it'll probably be the first one. And then the other when she's talking, it'll be switched so that she can just be running her lines as much as she wants to.

Oh, wow. Yeah. That's great. I feel like you're smart when you get it. The best actress.

She's a little wooden at times, but I think that's partially the writing. I understand why Columbia so the next fact you're gonna read, sorry, is that you can read it and then I'll go on. Sorry. I can't read. Go ahead.

Okay. He no he normally just recognizes the logos. So she was in the Columbia contract Mhmm. You know, stable of actors as they referred to it at that point or Studio. Yeah.

Studio stable of actors or Studio actors. Yeah. Studio actors. Stables are tending to more horses. Oh, interesting.

Okay. We're in the Equestrian District, Paul. That's true. I should know better. You get in trouble.

I know, man. If you don't know that. Man, I see them all the time when I go on the, where's the, where's the horse thingy? Yeah. Where's the horse house?

Where's the place the horse house live? The horse house. Where can I find a pony? Yeah. The horse house.

Where's the horse house? I wanna find a pony and a train. The horse house. Where's the horse house? I wanna find a pony and a train.

Take you there. She was in this movie, I guess, partially based on this contract, like, that they were like, you're doing this. This is the third movie she is credited for ever being in. Yeah. I I thought she was solid.

I don't And then she goes on to, like, she has a crazy story. Oh, she yeah. Well, when you look up, I mean, again, RIP, like, how she passed, how young she was, what she accomplished. Oh, shit. Really?

Yeah. But she was great in this movie. She was great. She's the best I've ever seen anybody ever do anything. No.

I thought she was I thought she was solid. I thought, like, it wasn't, like, a super deeply written character, but That's true. There's especially a moment where it's he's and you love me. And she goes, I do? And that, like, there's a few deliveries by her that I'm like, oh, it's like very charming and earnest.

Yeah. Personal opinion. The Marseille and New York Harbor sequences were filmed in Southampton, UK. The presence of the Queen Elizabeth ocean liner, there was a lucky quincent. The whole movie is filmed in The UK.

Right? There's nothing filmed in Yeah. I'm gonna go to New York. There's nothing filmed in New York. Oh, so apparently, according to IMDB and Wikipedia, they did spend some time in, like, New York or Really?

Look it up. Let's look it up. We're gonna do it. There's no way to know. Look it I'm looking it up.

Oh, but I think that they just happen to shoot in the morning when no one's around. That for a lot of the scenes when they're on the street, they shot on Sunday mornings when people yeah. It's just if you're gonna shoot if they shot in New York, you think they would have, like, made that more abundantly obvious. No. There's a lot of greens, like, early green screen stuff.

Yeah. It's really it's like, that's just picture, and they're walking in front of the theater. Matte paintings. Yeah. Which I love.

I think it's part of the I mean, it's it's it works for the the tone of the piece and also just, like, it's quaint and cute. Jack Arnold did not ask the studio's permission for the Columbia Pictures logo joke. The torch lady runs after seeing a mouse. Convinced they would say no, studio executives only heard of the joke when they attended the New York previews where it got a huge laugh. As well it should.

It's a cute joke. Has that I'm curious when people started involving studio logos into their, like, parts of their I'm thinking of, like, Indiana Jones using the Paramount, mountain. Oh, where it, like, blends directly into a film or whatever. It has to be one of the first times. I would feel like this must be one of the first times.

It's like I assume the mouse that roared on the moon or whatever it was. I assume that's gotta be, like, one of the quiet roar. Really early. Yeah. No one can scream.

Scream in space. But, like, I that's gotta be one of the really early sequels. Gotta be. Because sequels started to become more popular in seventies, eighties, really. The Thin Man, there's, like, five of them.

True. Wow. You came up with that really fast. That was impressive. My dog's name is Asta.

That's true. You don't think they made sequels? I've never put that together ever. Serious? Yes.

Dead serious. I mean, they were making sequels to westerns at this point. Yeah. I I feel like the sequel didn't become a huge popular thing in the zeitgeist until the seventies release. It's really sandy out here too.

What about samurai movies? Yeah. There was a few. Sure. I'm not saying sequels didn't exist.

I just feel like they were I feel like you're wrong. Rare. Okay. Yeah. Then I'm wrong.

Mission Impossible. Mission Impossible two. Fallout. Yeah. Triple x.

The Italian Job. America, Winter Soldier. Okay. So the movie was shot in Manhattan, Marseille, New York Harbor, Southampton, Hampshire, New England. So apparently, it was shot in New York and The UK, but primarily, almost all of it was in The UK, especially with the So the boat thing was an accident or like a happy coincidence?

Yeah. Yeah. Apparently. The presence of the Queen Elizabeth. They got lucky.

Maybe they planned it. Who knows? We will never know. They're all dead. Provisional.

AI wrote this sheet, so who's to say? Jack Arnold did not oh, you already already read that. Fuck. I already read that. Also, who is the producer?

He didn't think it was funny. Walter Shenzhen? Like, on apparently, on, like, the dailys. John Shenzhen. Yeah.

This isn't really very funny. Well, it's interesting watching it now because it is it's a very dry humor. And it's more of the premise that's funny than the actual, like, scene to scene. Yeah. It's a different kind of humor than what nobody makes a movie like that.

There are funny little bits. I mean, when he says, like, I have memorized the Geneva Convention, like, the general says that. I was like, what? You have to do it for me in the morning. Yeah.

I have to do the harpsichord or whatever. I can't remember. It's so good. I think there's a lot of it's funny, but It's a funny movie. Don't don't shoot.

We'll get in trouble. Just that they sell, like, bows and arrows and the and, like, no one in the world knows where they are or, like, where to claim this tiny country that it's just great. The premise is great. I do appreciate that the British news pronounces it Fennec, which is how they pronounce it, and the American news pronounce it Fenwick Yeah. Because the presence of the w.

It's just like a little how how do you pronounce the name of this country? I don't know. And nobody really cares. No one cared until this moment. Until they became a nuclear superpower, nobody cared.

It's funny also, like, to create a English speaking, like, basically a British country in the middle of nowhere. I do like that they justify that immediately in the movie in the voice over though. Yeah. It's great. Like, they address it so quickly.

Like, yeah. White Conkers just, like, took this or whatever it was, essentially. The film performed better financially in its primary international distribution market, The US, than its country of production in The UK. The Grand Fenech army invading NYC was shot on empty streets on Sunday mornings. Hey.

We just said that. Yeah. Cool. The fantastic opening Columbia torch woman gag opening credits animation sequence were designed by the great Maurice Binder. Early double o seven, several Hitchcock films.

Oh, that's a he's a first ballot hall of famer for sure. I love all again, like I was saying, Spielberg's obviously seen this movie. Like, when you see the travel stuff or, like, his way, they Fenwick is in I love that the drawings is like a fan. It's not like it's grimmed. It's not a storm.

It's a fan. Did anybody love just, like, the colorization of this movie too? Like, it's just such a pretty the colors of the movie are so pretty vibrant but muted. I don't know how to even put it. Like, that's how it came to me on my TV anyway.

I'm gonna ask you a question. What's the logline of this movie? I don't know. What would you say the the the synopsis of this movie in is in one sentence? In a world.

Yes. Paul's judging you. Yeah. Yep. That's what I'm doing.

I panicked. I lost it. I don't know. I was gonna ask you, but you already know it. Yeah.

I do. I'm looking at it. So an impoverished backward nation declares a declares a war on The United States Of America hoping to lose, but things don't go according to plan. Like this in this moment. We brought Matt on.

We didn't tell him, like, you need to prepare, like, a log line. Like, we like to surprise people like this. We like to surprise people. And he's like, shit. Why'd you do this to me?

Yeah. Sorry. Should I go? I mean, we'd like it if it was okay, but you were. You're doing great.

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So we're back. We all just watched this movie, but I wanna ask you, Matt, before you rewatched the movie Yes. The Mouse That Roared, before you when did you just re watch it and what did you rate it before the re watch and after the re watch? Oh, but you can choose who You can choose who does the first re watch rating. You don't have to be the first one to do that.

Okay. Just give us, like, if I asked you a month ago, what's your rating on the mouse that roared? Out of five would be four. Out of five, please. 4.1.

Oh. Okay. We're gonna do a tenth measure tonight. Oh, wow. Oh, is that not enough?

4.1. I wanna fit in. I don't know. You roll with whatever you want. You don't fit in.

Screw that. Yeah. No. I I just kinda I don't wanna stick out. I just wanna You wanna like You don't wanna stick out like a sore toe.

Yeah. Or a Vin Diesel. Otherwise known as Val Kilmer. Come on, family. You're seeing The Rock?

I'm your huckleberry. This has been a wild episode. It's, it's it's jumping around. Yeah. If you're still with us, thank, thank you.

You're doing great. Okay. You're doing just as much weed as you do much you do weed as much as Paul does. No. Come on.

Give me credit. Nobody does. Nobody does as much weed as you? Yeah. I can tell you one person who listens to this that does more more weed than you.

No shit? Yeah. Who? We'll bleep it. I don't know if he wants me to call him out.

We'll bleep it. His name is I like him. And he listens to our podcast. Thank you, Daniel. I know.

Thank you, Daniel. I assume does it say on his ID just Dan? Maybe. Or, like, Danny? I know some I recently met someone named Danny.

Even on their ID, it's Danny. First time in my life. A female identifying? No. No.

Male, d a n n y. Interesting. So 4.1, Matt. Yes. Now you just rewatched it.

Mhmm. Who do you want to say first now that all three of us have rewatched it? Would you like to go first, myself or Ben? No. Go ahead.

This is my first time ever watching it. Mhmm. I would give it, out of five, four glasses of California Enwick. Grand California. Pinot Grand California Grand Enwick.

The imitation wine. Yeah. No. We got it. Yeah.

Is how does that translate if it were the real thing? Oh. Like, is it diluted? Like, clearly, the California version is worse because it always is. We are Hot take.

California wine is not as good. It's true. This is some this is Somalia here, people. Which which way does it make three out of five, I guess? I would only need three glasses to get where I wanna go instead of four glasses to get where I wanna go.

I don't think about it like that as a wine professional. It's not more alcoholic. Matt literally just, like, touched his chest like a conservative. Wine professional. Wine professional.

You've heard my insights. Different than a professional whiner. Either way Paul is. Four out of five. Four out of five.

Great. Alright. This is gonna be boring because we're all gonna sit at the same level. I'm sitting I'd never seen this movie before in my entire life. I'd never heard of it.

And I came away with four football bombs. Okay. Four football bombs. Four football bombs. And you just rewatched it, Matt.

Mhmm. What did you what would you say now as of what when did you rewatch it? Like, last night, two days ago? Maybe a week ago. You still rate it same?

Like, four? Yeah. I think so. But I also hadn't watched it that long ago. Yeah.

Like, it had been a couple years, but it wasn't like, the first when I watched it the first time when I was, like, 10, it wasn't like that. I kinda had a concept of it. Sure. Yeah. It wasn't like you were, like, questioning whether or not it was still good.

Yeah. It was, like, fresh enough. Yeah. And you're not at that point, you're not wondering if it still holds up because it hasn't really changed. Yeah.

Unlike this wine Are you waiting for it to change? Sometimes, I'm gonna call it Atlantic Wall. I'll call it Arctic Fence. I don't wanna say the name of the winery or whatnot. It's okay.

Everyone's listening to this, Matt. Not We get 46,000,000 listeners a week. Yeah. But it's owned by, like, a shoe company or something. Probably.

Well, that's that's on brand for Paul. Yeah. He's a big shoe guy, Paul. He's a big If it's not one of the shoes you want. Mm-mm.

It's not owned by Nike. It's a Nibach. It's owned by what's that shoe company? Hoka? Hoka?

Hoka? Yeah. Everybody loves the HOKA. Yeah. I'll call that out.

And the New Balance. I don't know what that is. Matt has very cool New Balances on, by the way. Uh-huh. What about my shoes, Paul?

Hobbit shoes. He's got, like, the die hard he's got, like, the die hard Hobbit feet on. We usually start He's got like some big slippers on. We usually start at the top of the movie and talk through it. Yeah.

That's normally what we do. Yeah. That's what we're gonna do. Let's do the same thing called the chronological order of Yeah. The film.

We try to stay Emphasis on chronic. We're talking about Paul. Get it? Because he does weed. That's what you did, Rudy.

Because he does weed. The chronic logical. That's a good album. The chronic. What coals of Paul?

Riddick. Riddick. Riddick. Oh, we're back to diesel? We're back to diesel, mate.

Family, keep it in the family. That's what I always say. Don't say that. By the way, I just wanted to look it up. You are from Vancouver.

It's true. Vancouver Washing. Vancouver Washing. Come on, man. Let's be clear.

Not the good one. Named after the same guy, though. It's it's like John Vancouver? George Vancouver. Oh.

A Canadian guy. It's like, there's a high school where I'm from called Hudson's Bay, which was a trading company based in Canada, and it's like Vancouver, layoff of Canada. Why do you why are you so obsessed? Vancouver, Washington, Oregon didn't want it. No.

Not at all. That's the tagline of the city. But what if you moved to the river? They excavated redogs. They spent Speaking of the time.

Billions of dollars. That's kind of small insignificant places. Speaking of adjustments. Yeah. Let's talk about Oregon?

Fennec. Well, I wanna pretty authentic. I really wanna mention really quick. They meant they say that the population of The US is about one seventy five at that time. It was about one seventy seven.

Does anyone know the population of The US now? I looked it up a while ago, but I don't remember. Okay. Yeah. We like to take wild guesses on this show for no 300,000,000.

K. Yeah. That feels yeah. 285,000,000. You both took the under $3.34.

Matt wins. Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding over three thirty four. So it's about? I was just counting voting population. Got it.

Wow. I think you really overshot that actually. I think I overshot that too. 50 times over. Percent Yeah.

Vote rate. Yeah. That's real. Yeah. Right?

We care a lot. Okay. The mouse and Lord. We all like this movie. We're all kind of in the same zone.

And the movie starts off, we this one tiny country was founded by an English knight. What's that name? Fenech. Someone Fenech. Yeah.

And it's in the middle of the was it Netherlands? Alps? Alps? It's in the Alps. Was it in a certain country?

Its own. Well Its own 15 square miles. Birgish? Yeah. It's the yeah.

Adjacent. Yeah. I guess it would be. Europe's small. Is it?

Not as small as Grand Fenwick. Yeah. It's true. But I just actually so in the movie, they say that it's the smallest country and it's only I think 15 square miles but Monaco is only like one. Wait, really?

Yeah. And The Vatican also counts. Right. The Vatican does count. That's true.

But did it count in 1959? Don't know about that. I was Yeah. I don't know when these things are dated. This is where people come for historical facts.

This is a history of the time. This is a history of the time. Focus on. Yeah. Well, then let's not, we don't want them to be disappointed.

Let's speak with confidence. Yes. That's all that matters Yeah. Ultimately. If you don't know what you're talking about, it sounds like you do.

Yeah. That's all that matters. My entire life. I'm a wine professional. Same same gesture.

Hand over heart. Yeah. Very serious about it. You're a Somalia. I I like the little kind of setup, like, where you're entering this world and you're being told immediately, by the way, don't take this too seriously.

This is all just a story. Very colic and very, like, serious. Yeah. And then as this narrative is going, it just did you read about it before you started watching it or you just hit play? I just hit play and then read later.

So, like, how you're going, like, what's going on? It's just like, oh, this country and all this and then it's like, within five minutes, it's like, oh, this is a very silly place. Yeah. It did it did it did remind me early. It's a very silly place.

Yeah. It did remind me early as, like, a Monty Python Yeah. Bit in some ways. Terry Gilliam's seen this movie. Again, a lot of people we really like have obviously seen this movie.

Yeah. For sure. What? I thought I kinda talked over you. I was trying to give you opportunity.

Paul gestured at me wildly and mouthed something out of the fence to We should do this in YouTube. Channel. I I mentioned I was trying to mention earlier, like, we gotta start streaming these or something. Was it when Rachel was here that we were trying to get her to guess Batman Forever? Yes.

And we're like Yeah. I mean, at that thing in the corner? Yeah. And nobody in the podcast understood that Nope. At all.

Either that or you have to start saying your hand gestures out loud. I am now, like, doing audio description. Or maybe He flipped me off in the last episode. He flipped me off. Yeah.

But I did it like this. He just flipped Matt off without a guess. As a demonstration. Oh, is it oh, okay. Not like this.

Oh. We're losing our momentum. Focus. It's herp. Yeah.

Welcome to Paul. By the way, in terms of the pantheon of multiple roles in a single movie, I mean, Peter Sellers in this and Doctor Strangelove is, like, way up there. Yeah. But where who else do we have in the pantheon of Tyler Perry. Tyler Perry.

Sure. Yeah. It's not a long list. Mike Myers. I mean Yeah.

Mike Myers. Eddie Murphy, Jerry Lewis in Family Jewels. Jerry Lewis. And then Alec Guinness and some flowers, some I forget he the dual role that he played in, like, before. Does this count as if they, like, they played twins?

Or is it we're just thinking of, like, a Yes. Are you thinking of Van Damme and Double Impact also or Maximum Risk? I wasn't thinking of either of those things. Oh, Parent Trap. Lohan.

You're a Lohan. Yeah. That's what I thought you were going with. Yeah. Not that I was thinking.

I was going social network. Oh, okay. Yes. Oh. The cannibal who will not be here.

We might as well just go dead ringers now. Might as well just go full dead ringers, Jeremy Irons. I'm trying to think of other Disturbing. Ones off the top of my head of multiple this is a good one. There's a lot of Nick cages.

Peter Sellers is one of those guy I mean, he's, like, an expert clown. And his he has a really strong, subtle muscle in his performance that he can be restrained and yet incredibly engaging and funny. I've heard at the same time, though, he doesn't necessarily funny. I've heard at the same time, though, he doesn't necessarily leave space for other actors. Mhmm.

In terms of, like Like, his performance will be this, like, wonderful thing, but it doesn't necessarily lead to someone else elevating also. Interesting. Peter's gonna do Peter. Like, he yeah. He he Like, he's not playing off of one of his being himself.

Yeah. He'll ask for forgiveness, not permission or what have you. We call those selfish actors and they exist and they're not all bad people. And some of them are really really amazing. Jamie Taco for instance.

I don't know what that is. Jamie Taco is one of the great does it matter you? Come on. It's fine. I'm not getting any of this.

No. I do like tacos. I like tacos. Do you guys wanna get together tomorrow for tacos? Gotta work.

For taco Tuesday? I have to wash my hair. I'm pretty busy. I was just rewatching Garth Meringue for, like, the fiftieth time and that came up where it has, like, an excuse to not hang out with Matthew Berry from What We Do in the Shadows. I'm sure I have to wash my hair.

It's great. Matthew Berry, not of Crocodile Dundee, ESPN Fantasy Football. Nope. Not that one. The other one.

But I wanna I wanna obviously go back to this movie. Oh. But their their one major export is this tiny country is at this special elevation. Yep. Yes.

So they have this very particular tasting wine. It's a particular label. Is that their particular label? Yeah. It's like bargain basement.

It's it's three, four, five, eight bunch of Like that's the pitch. It's it's okay wine. It's fine. It's fine wine. But they're the only ones that grow it in the world.

Yeah. It's all they got. It's their only extra And they don't really even drink it themselves. They just export it to America who has bad taste. And they're gonna make it into gum.

There are a lot of Pauls in America. Okay? A lot of people will watch Streetfighter when they're in their sixteenth will drink whatever this wine is you bought. Atlantic Fence. Yeah.

So From the shoe company. They're back but they're they're losing money and they need money as a country. Right? No. No.

No. No. No. California. This is my favorite thing is that it's so just what really happens in real life all of the time.

Yeah. California, some winery goes, oh, I could grow that. And they probably go over there, they get some clippings. I'm a professional wine drinker. They steal some clippings.

Hand over heart, y'all. Hand over heart. They call it a shoe they call it a a suitcase clone, which means that they took the clone, like, they took the clippings. Like a varietal? Yeah.

And people do it in Burgundy or they used to do all the time. So you go to somewhere like Mussini and you take clippings, you put it in your suitcase. You smuggle it back Oh, wow. And then you plant it in your vineyard. Oh my god.

Yeah. It's like a whole thing. They literally are smuggling things. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's happened over and over and over again. This is awesome. Mhmm. I can't wait for them to shoot in bottom of the movie like 14 about this, like, cloning grapes.

I'm excited. So so California starts growing this grape because California is both rich and very fertile, they can easily grow it at way cheaper. They can sell the wine for half the price, and they sink the economy of Grand Fenwick. I love the premise that they basically make a dupe wine at to the point where they just call it California Grand Enwick. I like that even in the label, there's a missing space where the f should be.

They didn't even space respace it out. It's it's like they literally bought the same label from the same printer for the same price and just whited it out. But Robert Mondavi Oh, Bob Mondavi. Yeah. So probably in the seventies, but maybe before that.

So Sauvignon Blanc is from the Loire Valley in France, and there's a place called Pouilly Fume. And it's they make Sauvignon Blanc. We're Americans. We don't understand any of these things. Robert Mondavi makes Sauvignon Blanc called Fume Blanc.

Oh, like fake Blanc? Is that what it Well, he's taking the the wine region Uh-huh. That we aren't smart enough to understand Yeah. Putting it on his wine and making it like, a proprietary name for something. I feel like I'm talking to Rob Lowe in Wayne's World where they're talking about champagne.

I feel like I'm in wine class because I used to take wine class all the time. Oh, yeah. For purple. For a job. Purple is a Who I worked at worked with, Dan, listener of the of this I have to blurt that out now.

Well, yeah. You do. I gotta figure out how to put in, like, funny sound effects like Oh, like, we're at There's music behind all of this. Right? Like, keeping the Yeah.

Oh, it's like keeping the rhythm going. Death metal. Yeah. Like, really small Portland ish death metal. It's it's cannibal corpse, like, but bumper shoots circa twenties.

But Chevelle style. Oz Oz didn't make it. Like, if you were if if something called, like, Ozfest, but then, like, he wasn't there. Yeah. He did finger quotes.

Sorry. Finger quotes. Describe. Ozzfest. Back to the movie.

The country is broke and their idea and this was something that was told to me when I was a child all the time by, like, my mom and my grandma. Like, yeah. Everybody that goes to war with The US, The US just fixes everything for them. And all these countries owe us all this money for all this aid. And I was like, whatever.

And watching this movie reminded me of them bombarding me with this. Like, what are you talking about? And I did learn later in life that this was something that existed. Mhmm. But it just reminded me of that very specific talk.

The whole concept then of the movie is because they are broke, the best thing to do is to declare war on America and lose. Get war in a So America will spend millions of dollars rehabilitating them. Yeah. It's not a horrible plan. If it works.

I mean I feel like a country No one can fuck that up. Nobody could fuck that up. Unless you just stumble into New York when they're in the middle of a of a bomb test or whatever they're doing and everybody's gone and you steal a bomb. It's so I just love, like, that, you know, we meet the queen who is Yeah. The Duchess of Peter Sellers.

Peter Sellers. Now in the book, in the book, the PM. She's the young, sexy Really? Queen. Yeah.

Have you read the book? No. Of course not. Yeah. You don't read perfect writer.

This book's written by Bertrude Matheson? Sure. Old Dickie plus minus. Yeah. Little Dickie plus minus.

Same person that wrote, Pride and Prejudice, I think. Oh. Yeah. Charles Dickens. William Shakespeare.

I think it was Max Brooks. Yeah. Mel. Mel Brooks. Melissa McCarthy?

Joseph McCarthy. Paul McCarthy. Red Dawn. Paul McCartney, though. We'll talk about later.

There's a tie. Okay. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. Let's leave that for a second.

So the three Peter Sellers characters, the the the Duchess or Queen Bobo, the prime minister Bobo. Who I also love the score. Calls him I love the score of this movie. I love the It's fun. I love the music Yeah.

Especially as it goes on later because it has, like, a silent movie sort of feel. Mhmm. Can we jump ahead for a moment? Yeah. I wonder if we all thought of a similar moment.

So Tully and g I'm gonna keep calling her Jean. I have trouble with, like, characters that you don't remember. Actual performers. Helen. Helen.

Tully and Helen are in the room they've just kissed and he leaves and it's playing this very romantic, like, you know, wedding, whatever time music. Yeah. And, like, all of a sudden, Beowoo pops out literally from behind the curtain, and it starts playing, like, hilarious silent way of doing it. Yeah. It's so good.

But he's also got, like, a goatee, like, a pointy goatee. Yes. Like he looks like a villain. And then there's Like he's got someone tied to train tracks somewhere. Yeah.

You know he is. And then there's a few scenes when they're back, in the country too. Like at the end Oh, yeah. Yeah. With all the shenanigans Yes.

It's the same pacing and music. It's so good. And the same with, like, when he's Tully's chasing down the car and it happens to be behind him. I was like, this is like a this is like a silent movie bit. It works.

It's a really fun movie that's actually really beautifully shot and framed. Yeah. That's some like, we're gonna go back to the chronological piece in a moment here, but that's it's a really well directed movie. And I have seen Creature from the Black Lagoon a couple times in my life. Another really well framed, really good looking I don't know if I've seen it.

Movie. I've seen it. I do watch it in a film class years ago and then watched it for pleasure again, like, years later just as a fan of horror and apparently this being so quintessential and having to be like, oh, is it? And just a lot of the underwater stuff as slow as it is, it's so cool. When they decide to to declare war on The US, they send a The forest ranger.

Ranger. Well, first, they send a declaration of war to the US secretary. After three stern letters, after they went to Monte Carlo, because they don't recognize The United States. Yeah. Thank you.

US secretary of defense receives it and it's just like says something like, oh, those boys in what department? The defense department or something. Yeah. Yeah. Those pranksters.

Just just Those employees. It. And then they go off to war. They're also very specific about saying that everyone that's appointed in Grand Fenwick, it's hereditary. Yes.

Which is why they all look the same. Yeah. And why the duchess looks yeah. Like, they're very open about the fact it's hereditary. Is that a reference?

It's a very small sample. Toni Collette shows up. Is that a reference to the, British royalty? Yeah. Being Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Being just an incest. Which is what he based his, Duchess. Yeah. It's all based on her.

Yeah. 100%. Got it. It's so all three performances are so great and the way that it shot like, obviously, there are times where you can tell frames or things have been spliced together or there's specific staging or they cut it a certain way or whatever. But it flows so nicely.

And the way that it's colorized Mhmm. It's not too terribly distracting. The I think this is the beauty of some of those older things that are lit so precisely at the time that it we were talking about this earlier, matte paintings and moving backgrounds and things like that in this movie that it's just like, oh, this is a farce and this, like, fits, and they tried hard. And the visual piece of this that always almost always feels like a gag. It doesn't feel cheap.

No. Which is great. Yeah. When it feels on brand. Like, everything is on brand with Yeah.

The tone and the genre and the feel of the movie. Like, there's nothing that feels like it's not supposed to be there. And the silent picture part could not work Sure. Very easily. Yeah.

Because it's kind of out of the blue. Yeah. Yeah. They don't start there. It just turns into it all of a sudden and it is completely smooth.

Yeah. You know, like, it doesn't take you out. It is it does it does kinda track in a similar way to a Mel Brooks movie in that way. Where it's like, that you have a concept that's funny, kind of gets to a point where it becomes a pretty simplistic ending. And then and you know, like, Mel Brooks movies always get to a point where you're like, okay.

Where where is this gonna go? Like, how can this concept go any farther? How can we or is it just gonna, like, wrap up as simply as possible? Which this movie kinda does, which is fine. I gotta say really quick for a moment, because the movie is so short and I wasn't sure how deep I was into it.

And, Matt, you had told me you had really been considering your pick and bouncing around with different things. And I had will you put that closer to the mic? I had Did you just pee? Yeah. On Paul.

He was like, he was like, could you please put that closer to the mic? The dominance thing. Staying here. It's staying. Period.

Okay. Put it together. But where where were we? I'm completely lost. I want my listeners to do that.

It was a dominant thing. It was more like a Vin Diesel thing. Family. I'm oh, no. I got lost.

You were saying that I was going back and forth between a few movies. Oh, yeah. And so there was the really sudden, like, the bomb goes off. And for half of a second, I forgot this was a farce. Oh.

Yeah. And that this is just, like, a lot of things are gonna happen for effect. Yeah. And it really worked on me for half a second. I was like, oh, oh.

This is not the end of our movie. Yeah. So yeah. So let's the army of Fenwick gets Led by a forest ranger. Led by Tully Bascom.

Tully Bascom. Heads off and Left to walk to To the gate. To the border to catch the bus. Yeah. Yeah.

And then But he has fallen arches and flat feet, which is mentioned. It's like that's the same thing. I love that chain they I love that they change out of their chain mail into, like, suits, and that they still have their bows, like, with their Yeah. Suitcases. It's good.

Not a good, like, really good, like, slight subtle visual gags in the movie. Well, and, like, they're so, like, unsuspecting and, like, you know, superfluous country that they could just walk into The United States and nobody be, like, nobody would fucking know. No. Yeah. Well, like, the the just the happenstance, like, they're on this tiny boat going by this giant boat shooting arrows at people.

Like, it's so antiquated. And just by happenstance, by just dumb luck, they show up in New York when there's a bomb drill because some guy's making a a cube bomb bomb. Blow up 2,000,000 square miles of the earth. It's the size of a football. It's the size of a football, but they show up in squeaky chain mail.

I love the squeaky ring. And they're like, oh, because your chain mail's rusty. To go under Alright. Yeah. During the storm.

Oh, yeah. Totally Bascom gets really seasick. Seasick easily all the time. Yeah. No problem.

I love that everybody's under, like, hiding out from this bomb and just, like, dancing. Yeah. They're all underground having a good time. They don't actually Right. Right.

No. Totally. But I love that But what we see of everybody down there is just dancing. Well, like and also the their invasion map is like a fucking Rand McNally. Like, you just Oh, yeah.

So that is like, here's our invasion. It's like a New York travel book. It's just like a travel map. Yeah. It's like the the cats, the Zucker, whomever, the cat Abrams, the cats who made airplane saw this movie.

Oh. Guaranteed. Oh, yeah. Again, we were talking about this with Die Hard and so many things. Part of the reason why I was so enjoyed this, like, by the end was all of the things that I thought of where it's like, oh, so many people and films and blah blah blah.

Do we know I love? Does anyone know off the top of their head when Monty Python film circus started? Oh, not started. The holy grail in Life of Brian to a degree, but mostly holy grail, which was seventies. Kinda Yeah.

That's the one that feels like it But but just a flat correct. Yeah. But I feel like there's just, you know, know, that level of the the humor is very similar. Yeah. And so sixty days ago.

Okay. So, yeah, ten years later, which is about right. Yeah. Side note, and ten years after that, eleven years after that, Sellers passed away. Has anyone seen Being There?

Yeah. But it's been a long time. Is it a Mr. Bean movie? I said Being.

Oh, sorry. Being There. Being There. Yeah. He was he does that coffee documentary.

With Jerry Seinfeld. Yeah. Where they have bean and cheese burritos and coffee. Is your bean does? Yeah.

Rowan Atkins. Oh. Atkinson. So Not his dad. Val Kilmer.

I mean, Vin Kilmer. I mean, Val Diesel. Val Diesel? That's a good name. It is not bad.

It's really not. Val Diesel, Val Kilmer, Vin Diesel, Family, Illuminati. Triangles in all these movies that we watch. But the CD, like, all the folks that are I don't think they have triangles in the mouse that we're working. There are there are the the CD folks with, like, the helmets and the armbands.

Triangles? They have triangles on them. The ones that were coordinating everyone to Oh, isn't it insane? Stay underground. I love that they think each other are men from Mars.

Yes. I mean, it does kinda make sense though. So in this time frame and, like, b movies were so popular. Space was, like like, they were like, that was, like, men from Mars, aliens. That was, like, the big thing at the time.

I've watched a little Ed Wood. I've watched the Tim Burton film, Ed Wood. Sure. And some of those things yeah. Along those lines.

And it hadn't really hit me, like, that this, has so many elements from I mean, it's the guy who directed Creature from the Black Lagoon. Mhmm. So why am I so surprised? But But I like that he looks at these men who are dressed like medieval knights and thinks From Mars. Like, the on the other side.

They're wearing hazmat suits. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Yeah.

They you could look at them and be like, oh, they're mostly from Mars. But these guys dress like knights who are just clearly humans. They didn't have history books back then. They didn't have this podcast. Yep.

They didn't do this history podcast. Yep. They should have listened. They really should've. I also like, when we meet the, Cocanes.

Cocanes? The Cocanes. Yeah. So first, they go through Central Park. Right?

They steal that they steal the the the truck. They steal the truck, which it we're gonna return it. They're so good. Sorry about getting in trouble. Don't shoot.

We'll get in trouble. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's very adorable. Well, they don't wanna actually hurt anybody.

They don't wanna actually upset the Americans. I didn't want anyone hurt. That's right. They just want the money. It's true.

Like, the logic of it all makes sense. I love when the logic doesn't make sense where the guy building the most popular most powerful bomb Has no guards or anything? And he's just in an open space in some random fake school. And he's like, do you have a hairpin? No.

Do you have a bobby pin? Like, to make a bomb, it's like, you've got this guy's MacGyver. The one guard is like Do you have chewing gum? Supposed to be getting him a sandwich. Yeah.

With a pickle. Pickle. This is also I wanna say, we have a lot of movies that have repeating themes or things like people's birthdays or actors. And this, this is the second movie for sure where the term nincompoop is used. Also used in a little movie called Somewhere in Time.

That is a movie we watched. It is. Don't be a nincompoop. Have you seen Somewhere in Time with Christopher Reeve? Nope.

Yeah. You're you're fine. Yeah. Listen to our episode. It's if I it's seven hours.

It's three parts seven hours total. If I if I turn it on The The podcast? Accidentally falls asleep. If I wake up, like, when do I need to set my alarm to, like, get to that part? The nincompoop part.

It's about an hour and forty minutes. Yeah. Okay. Approximately. Just going off of, Matt's, like, comment of, like, why are why are your episodes an eternity?

They're so long. My phone froze. Alright? I feel like we're not that long. Oh.

It's okay. I've been told different. I feel like I've probably been lied to. But it's okay. So Jean Seberg Yeah.

Who I thought was pretty good in the in the movie overall. She is folding or arranging laundry like a few different times in this movie. Yeah. And I feel like I see anything pre seventies, there are a lot of, like, there are a lot of holes there for me. Like, for women roles?

Sure. There's that too. But it's like, I feel like that's just that's where some of the direction falters for me a little bit. Where there's just, like, not a lot of things for people to do, but especially bold. Right.

But and I also fold something. But I also this is where I get the Spielberg thing too. Like, several scenes in the movie feel like Marion and Indie? Indie are inspired by this movie. Well, I mean, it's As well as Spielberg's wife.

I'm for, Kate Capshaw. Willie. Kate Capshaw. I was trying to remember the name of the character. Willie and Indie, specifically in Temple of Doom as well.

We are going to die. God. Great movie. It is. It's really funny.

But that, like, archetypal relationship, you know, has been around for super long. You know, like, I mean, that's like Petruchio and lost her name, Tammy the shrew. But, like, there you know what I mean? I think there is a little bit of ignoring her character arc in this movie. Their relationship makes sense from his perspective for me, but not so much from hers.

But I mean but, again, this is a time. It's a it's a time this movie is made. I'm not, like, putting today's thoughts and I just wonder how much laundry she had. I mean, like, why why did she Why is she doing her laundry? Like, she's, like, two days into a Well, she's doing all the men's laundry.

Her dad's building a bomb. She's probably doing his. I mean, there's she should have been hanging the chain metal. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

With a, like, with a did they have blow dryers back there with a blow dryer, like, trying to keep it from rusting? Well, they did in The US, but not in Grand Fender. Not over there. Not in Grand Fender. No.

It's also a thing where you have to consider a lot of that kind of stuff had to be so finite. So many sets were being reused from movie to movie. Obviously, actors were under contract. Costumes were being reused. So she was just folding the laundry of the studio.

For for studio folks. Yeah. I see. But also, it's just like laundry, you know? You don't have a big budget to go a lot of places to do a lot of things.

It's it's tough that it's there's, like this movie is insanely creative. But at times, there are things where you can tell for the time that it was happening in the fifties or whatever. Mhmm. It's like, okay. Well, just have her folding more of the studio people's laundry.

Like, it just felt like, man, for a really creative She's even doing that on the boat. Right? Yeah. That's the scene scene I was thinking. Well, she's still doing it in, the room that's next to the Duchess as well.

She's doing it two or three different times in the movie. What is she doing when her dad's building the bomb? Oh, if you didn't hear it, it's my cat. I've been waiting for that forever. In case you thought it was something else, that was a cat.

I really hope we picked it up. You sound like you are a strangling a cat. Rest in peace, Robbie Coltrane. Previous guest of the show, Jessica Martin, is feeding Oh. Yes.

That makes me so happy. My best friend and snowshoe Siamese. That's his first official guest appearance on the show. Congratulations. Yeah.

That's a big deal. I thought you were in John Malkovich. Oh, if we're gonna get going in that movie at some point. Give this man his money. Give this man his money.

Give this man his money. I love rounders. Me too. I used to watch that while playing poker because I had no originality in my life. It was just like, I don't know.

Poker a lot. It was a warm blanket for me, rounders was. Yeah. Yeah. It was that whole, like, if you can't cut loose and get out, whatever.

Yeah. It's pretty crazy how Brian Koppelman made that too, how he wrote it. Oh, what it please. It's like Hugh Jensen. Yep.

And, the music industry. Right. Like, HR stuff or not HR but, A and R? What A and R stuff and didn't wanna be? Like, his dad was in it, he kinda fell into it, but at a certain point in his, like, late thirties, he was, like, this is just not what I wanna be doing.

Do you know, Artist Way? No. It's like a borderline cult y. It's like a thing that helps people be creative. So it's a book.

Someone wrote this book about how to be a creative person, and and one of the things about it is that you wake up every single day and you write. And it's got morning pages. You always write two or three pages, whatever. It doesn't just stop there. It goes into these other things where all of a sudden you're like, god, this is a lot of Writing?

No. Like thing like things about, like, getting together with people and stuff where you start to go, like, this doesn't really feel like a writing class and it's more like multi level marketing. Trying to. It's kind of weird. Trying to turn people into your sex slaves and branding them.

Yeah. A lot of that. You have to build a dungeon in your house even if you live in an apartment complex. Yeah. Like, it's a bunch of weird stuff.

Yeah. That's where you keep the bum. Because they steal the bum. Well, they're like, oh, wow. Look at this.

This guy's building a Q bomb, and we have it now. And their chain mail and arrows is literally good. We don't have to lose this wall. We can actually, like, have leverage and take this back. But they needed hostages, which they got by this general snippet driving by with a bunch of cops.

And they take them hostage, and they take them back to Grand Fenwick, which is, like, okay. Two Horse Town is, like, a compliment. Combination? Yeah. That's a really excellent way to put it.

It's like a tiny town, but I love, like, how the major superpowers of the world, because they have this bomb now, are all meeting outside their border playing diplomacy at whatever point. The the riff on the Yeah. But I also like the the the British car and the Russian car have the smaller, like, French car pinned in the middle. And, like, if you can possibly get in or out of that vehicle Yeah. And it's one of those things that's, like, a a nice little visual gag.

Yeah. There's so many of those good gags in this Oh, yeah. For sure. Don't, different countries also come out and, like, we're on support of ground Fenwick. They all do.

So funny. Everybody in Europe, I think, support. This. Don't don't they? Like, the English say they support Fenwick.

The Russians, the Chinese, the French. Yeah. And then the the he reads The US news, and it's the Mets score. Yeah. It's so Mets versus Reds.

Braves. Braves. That's so funny. Yeah. Baltimore, Brooklyn.

Not even referencing. It's so good. Just sports. Yeah. It's just about sports.

That's what this episode is brought to you by. Yes. Keep in mind, sports. Sports. Please.

We're just stereotypes right now. Yeah. A %. That this movie is calling out. Speaking of problematic things, Helen offers Tully a kiss on the boat and he can't do it because he sees it.

He's about to vomit. I thought he was gonna vomit in her face. Oh, it's not that kind of movie. I know. It's not it's not a scary movie.

Yeah. God. It's not a Wayne's brothers. Not crap. Not at all.

But the the kiss that happens when Helen's being held prisoner in It's weird. It it's a little bit weird but it's also like she also gave him permission and then he Patrochio and Kate. Sorry. He also apologizes. But she falls in love with him.

Yeah. After a kiss. Like, it's like there is a justification afterward. Do you know afterward. Do you know Tammy O'Shrew?

Yeah. I do. Okay. I've seen about you like so many years. I went to that high school.

So he literally takes her prisoner or whatever and then we fall in love. That's that that's that story. Which is a really good lesson to teach kids. To teach men in particular. Yes.

To teach ladies too, like, all you gotta do is get taken captive. Yeah. Absolutely. Easy peasy. Like I said, this episode is brought to you by sports.

Sports. Not broad sports. No. Does anyone know why the duchess calls the prime minister boo boo? No.

Do you? No. No. I'd love it. It's a cute understand it.

It's a cute And it it adds a level of depth to their, like, relationship that's like, oh, they have a nickname. And I also there's a few scenes with, like, or things It might be a reference to, like, the queen calling one of the prime ministers something that we don't Yeah. Know as Americans. True. And the chewing gum thing.

Like, it repeats in the movie. Somebody steps in in chewing gum and refers to it to as germ warfare. Then there's a sign that says gum chum when they're picketing or protesting at a point when they've, like, brought in all the prisoners. And at the end, they wanna make the we're gonna make a grand Pinot pinot grand fennec Gum. Chewing gum.

Like, it there's some weird gum obsession in this movie. Horrible thing. Germ warfare was I thought that was pretty funny. I love that. I thought that was great.

Well, like, speaking of the visual gags too, it's that's part of the beauty of this movie. Like, we're barreling toward the end, and I don't feel like I'm missing a lot. It's a very simplistic structure. Yeah. But it but it all flows and works.

I mean, it's what? Barely it's not even ninety minutes. Right? No. It's eighty three including the front end credits.

I did you see that it had made a, made for TV movie after this? No. A shortened I saw it on the in in the I don't know where my phone is, but it was like a a made for TV hour long movie of The Mouse That Roared. Oh, wow. No.

I had no idea. Do you think it was is it completely new or is it just edited? It was made in '63. So I don't know if it was an edited version of this or if it was a completely new adaptation. And I could tell you if I looked it up, but we just don't have that technology here.

There's no possible way to do it. Or the time. We're stretching. We're getting ready for sports. Too much sports is happening.

We have to play, a full length cricket match after this. We do. It's part of the rules. Three days. Speaking of rules, we're gonna have to learn those also.

There are no rules. In cricket? Here's the other thing about rules. There there's the first no. There's no rules.

You don't play by anybody's rules. There is. Not even your own. There are no rules. Not at all.

We play by fight club rules. No rules. So just don't tell anyone about it? Yeah. Got it.

Shut up. God bless. No. I the thing about this movie is for me that rings in my damn brain, I know the sounds that bomb makes. I watched that movie one time.

It's so bad. Yeah. And it's just that's the biggest thing is the bomb is constantly warning you when it's mad. When it happens, it's very touchy. What I love I love is that idea that this bomb that can blow up all of North America that even when it's making this sound like you're giving it to someone else.

You're like It doesn't matter who matter who's holding it. Yeah. And and at the end there when they're all just trying to get it out of the country. And Like, that'll make the difference. Yeah.

Yeah. When they go across, like, the goal line there and the bomb calms down, I'm like, what is I don't understand the logic here. I guess I don't But it but the the the twist, the M. Night Shyamalan of it all is that the bombs are done. Yeah.

I before we go too far, when they're pushing the car up the hill Oh, yeah. And the camera transitions to the shot of the tire. So the general is holding this bomb, general snippet, who we haven't talked a lot about, and the cops who were hostage and Helen are pushing this car up the hill trying to get everybody out because Bobo and everybody have set this whole thing up. And the car goes up a hill, and if you watch the camera, I guess, I noticed, like, it's like, oh, we're not this changed, and the car is suddenly going down a hill. And it's such a great visual gag.

Is it like they're playing diplomacy? The all these guys who are waiting to talk to people in Fennec and get control of this bomb. The general comes barreling into just like a hay bale. It's a nice visual. Yeah.

They're like, did a car just run into that hay bale? Yeah. Did that just happen? Did, like, did Peter Sellers really just jump onto a horse bareback? No problem.

Did that just happen when he was trying to chase them? Referencing the fall. Yeah. Always. We're in the fall right now.

Probably not. I'm pretty sure they usually shot those things in reverse. But Usually, yeah. Yeah. Because it's the timing's weird.

Weird. Yeah. When you watch it, it's like that weird It is. Is it sped up or is it, like, it's not quite Yeah. Well, this is when it becomes very pretty good with it.

Silent movie is when it's the end of the movie, the chase, the sort of rundown and every like, the clear ice ice. Thing of coming up and the car is behind you and Yeah. Yeah. It's great. It's like Buster Keaton esque and it's great.

It's a good a lot of physical gags that, like, chain then it becomes a football game or really more of a rugby game because they're, like, throwing the ball around. Yeah. Whatever direction. Yeah. The bomb.

And, like, nobody wants to touch it. And they're, like, full on, like, throwing it. Yeah. The logic of the bomb makes no sense at all. Except that nobody except that nobody wants to hold it.

Yeah. The Q bomb just makes all these awful noises whenever it feels like it for whatever reason. And And it was a dud the whole time. That's the beauty. Like, once all these little countries get some this level of power to And that's after they sign the treaty over there.

Grant this level of sanity where they're like, you're gonna take Grand Fennec chewing gum. Yeah. You're gonna take the wine back. You're getting rid of the dupe. The US says we will help you.

Like, they were like, oh, and we would like $1,000,000. And it's like, oh Do you mean a billion? You mean a billion? Just a million. Probably have to take We can probably give you just a million.

Yeah. You might have to take a billion, but okay. Oh, no. No. No.

We just need a million. Yeah. We just need bathtubs and, like, because we can't have people in these old barrels with X-ray vision, they titties popping out and stuff or whatever. Bad. I swore when she lifted her right arm, I saw half a nip.

Did you go like frame? I think I framed it. Yeah. Then you drew on your TV. I would never.

I have an LG OLED. I would never. I can pause and zoom in. He's a leap. No problem.

I one of my favorite lines in this movie, because there are so many great throwaway lines in the movie. He loves me. Yeah. Yeah. He is an idiot.

And, like, give my love to president and missus Coolidge Yes. Who, like, left, like, 1929, like, what is is dead, I'm pretty sure at that point. That part's great. And, like, also and that, like, the look on Tully's face where he's, like, okay. Like, that guy hasn't been president for even that guy knows.

Like, that's everybody loves the Duchess, but she doesn't do shit. Mhmm. Again, we know where this inspiration comes from. To go to Fenwick. Yeah.

Just to visit. So would I. I would absolutely go there. You'd easily you'd get drunk for cheap. You'd have a great time.

Yeah. You'd hang out with some cool locals. You'd have good wine as a wine professional. Or wine. Just wine.

Yeah. It's just wine. Yeah. It's not good. It's not good.

Yeah. It's just there. They also did Oh, you wanna see the fog coming out of everyone's mouth all the time in this movie? What do you think? When they're speaking or whatnot in Grand or in New York.

Yeah. Like, it's like this it must have been, like, in the thirties or forties a lot. Like, it must have been very cold. I have an LG OLED TV, so I can see these things. I also see these frames on it In watching And zoomed in.

In watching, Yellowjackets, they're it's like they're in the middle of Canadian wilderness and it's winter, but it's clearly shot on, like, a it's not clearly. It's well shot, but it's it's shot on, like, a soundstage. Oh, yeah. And they they do the social network thing. They digitally put in, breath because they have to make it look cold.

And it works better in this than in social network. I don't know if you've watched social network recently, rewatch it, but the breath CG is really bad. Yeah. You call it fog when it comes out of someone's mouth? No.

No. I normally grew up in Alaska. You don't call it fog. But Paul did. You say it's their breath.

It's their breath. Yeah. Fog is something different. I'm doing great. I'm doing a great job.

I'm ready for sports. I like the bit where, they go down to the dungeon Yeah. With all the, torture, like the museum. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

It's just a museum down there. Give me a tin plate. I know the Geneva Gnatchen. You need to have a six by six what does he say? Six by eight cell.

He demand and the cops are with all these beautiful, like, local women eating delicious fresh fruit. Oh, those women were ready. Yeah. It was good. For those locals.

Like we said earlier, it's a small population and it's a very old population. Right. There's not a lot of outside influence. Yeah. It's interesting that they all have, like, two eyes, one nose, two lips, two hands.

That we can see. Yeah. That we know of. Like, they, like, for the girls. Also France, like, in Britain, whatever that they all seem.

Who's singing King Charles? It was fun. Like the scepter that the scepter has, like, I was like It's a huge, like, abnormal yeah. I feel like I'm watching clips from the coronation again. It's a bigger than normal scepter.

It's funny. It's great. It I mean, it does work. The scepter plays. Scepter plays.

Yeah. I I feel like this has just kinda been a love fest, which has been great. We've we've said this before in the past with movies that maybe we haven't seen or we haven't seen in a long time. It feels like a it feels like a little gift. It really did.

I I'm ready. I pleased I plea I was pleased with my evening of watching. I had a good time. Evening. My hour and twenty minutes.

I had a good time. It was like a it was an easy breezy watch. You've kinda mentioned a couple times off mic and on mic. This is an offbeat movie, but I think you found, like, the niche, like, the group a group people who are in a were in the nest with you. Yeah.

Oh, thank you. Yeah. Well, I liked it. But we're not wine professionals. No.

Clearly not. Ben hand over heart just now. What? American wine? What are you drinking?

Some garbage. 711 garbage. That part of it. Block. I literally wrote where there's a c and an e.

I wrote California Ennick. Yeah. I'm glad you explained that. It's the Bozo. It didn't it didn't track through the podcast audio medium.

No. Not at all. Again, I think we need a YouTube channel. I changed it. I did a little art project on it.

I saw that. We're ready to re rate it. Let's re rate it. I'm ready. Matt, you get to choose in what order this goes as the guest.

Who is gonna give their rating first? Okay. Oh, this is good. I'm gonna say some people's names and you're gonna guess how they're connected. To this movie?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Not to the movies specifically. Oh, BB.

Yeah. Okay. Give it to one of the actors. I like this. Oh, like Kevin Bacon.

Okay. Yep. Muhammad Ali, James Baldwin, Ernest Hemingway, Martin Luther King Junior, John Lennon, and Jean Seberg. Wait. But Jean Seberg's in the movie?

Right. Are they all in Help? The movie? I don't know. Matt, I don't know.

I'm just trying to explain it. By the time Help came out. No. The help The Beatles help? No.

The help. Oh, I was saying help exclamation point. Another movie punctuation. Yeah. That's you're right.

I was guessing the Emma Stone, Octavia Spencer, Viola Davis help. He caught me. I pivoted and then said, no. The Beatles won. Yes.

No. Help with the exclamation point. Don't you understand that? Yes. I do know.

Yes. But no. Jesus. I don't know. I like this game.

I can't imagine Peter Sellers had anything to do with I'm trying to order the rights movement. Were they on Lilith? Yeah. Tell us, please. They were all watched by the FBI.

Phone taps, everything. Oh, shit. Jean Seberg. Why? She was so she's from Iowa.

Oh, that makes sense. She moved to Paris when she was 18 and married a lawyer. A Parisian lawyer? Mhmm. Lived in Paris for most of her life.

Actually, I think all of her life. Donated tons of money to civil rights movements. So expat donated something like $10,000 to Black Panthers. Really crazy story. So she, starts getting surveilled surveillance?

Surveilled. Yeah. Surveilled. She gets pregnant. The FBI puts out a statement or plants rumors that the father is a member of Black Panthers.

She has a miscarriage. Part of it is due to, like, all of the stress of all this craziness. She has an open casket for the unborn baby so that the press can see that her baby is white. Oh, Jesus Christ. I think this is four or five years before she dies, before she ends her life.

Perpetuate overdose. And every year I think every year on her baby's birthday, she tried to kill herself before it happened. Wow. Yeah. It's really it is wild sometimes you think about people who deal with demons.

I don't know. Philip Seymour Hoffman is the first person that comes to my mind that provided me with a lot of joy and was dealing with things that are beyond my understanding for his own reasons and decided he didn't wanna be part of that, like, obligation anymore to me or society or who knows? We'll never know. But it's it was something that definitely, like, I looked into a little bit when I was doing some research for this movie Mhmm. In terms of her actual, like, taking over her own life.

But what you're telling me is all, like, new information, bums me out. Because, again, for a lot of reasons, people that we love are dealing with things that we don't know, like, we've talked about on this show, and we have little notices that are, like, hey, if you need help, here's where you can reach out for that. But that she was, can reach out for that. But that she was so dedicated to various movements and went through what she went through is like, Jesus. It's crazy what the FBI did.

Yeah. And continue to do. And continue to do, but in that time period Yeah. And that it is crazy. I was telling Rachel about it.

Yeah. Because it's so much bad things that they did. I mentioned it was so McCarthy. So many people's lives. Yeah.

And they were also surveillance the KKK. So maybe not like that also was probably a good thing. Yeah. I love Black Swordsman. That movie's wonderful.

That's a good movie. Well, you you brought it down at the end. Yeah. I really did. I was like I now I'm like, oh, the game was not very like I did like the game though.

It wasn't suit the movie The Game? That is one of my favorite movies. I do love the movie The Game. It's very good. Yeah.

You like sports movies. I do. This episode I don't think any given Sunday? Is brought to you by sports. Moneyball?

Sports. Major League. I like a good sports movie. Blue Chips. Major League is great.

Yeah. What is my favorite sports movie? What's your favorite sports movie? Before we give our ratings. I like this.

Yeah. Let's finish with our favorite sports movie and our final rating. I mean, this was brought to us by sports. What was what's the movie it's not really a sports movie because I haven't watched all of it. What's the movie where it must have come out in, like, the early nineties?

He's playing football. He scores a touchdown, and he says, ain't life a bitch? And he shoots himself in the head. The last boy scout or as Ben would call it, boy scout. It is a fucking go go bananas crazy shit on the wall movie.

It is a crazy fucking crazy basketball trip in, like, ninth grade. Awesome. One of our the dads recommended it, and we turned it off after that part. Like, that happened. Like, that happens.

Okay, kids. And we're like, none of us wanna watch this. Yeah. Alright, kids. That was fun.

You're gonna have therapy later. Yes. That's awesome. I think we watched, Monty Python on the same trip. Oh, good trip.

I'm trying to I think my favorite sports movie is Field of Dreams. That's a great answer in my opinion. Yeah. It is a great movie. Yeah.

Mine's probably My oh my. If we're allowed to do documentaries, if we are allowed The Last Dance? It The Last Dance would be hard for me to not say that but that's like, you know, I guess, like a a long form documentary. But outside of that, like, it is White Men Can't Jump. Yeah.

It is. That is that movie is so important to me that I spent over two hours in a phone conversation with a friend of mine about how angry he was about the first fifteen minutes of the remake before he turned it off. Have you watched any of it? No. And now I'm afraid.

No. I don't. I It's got, like, 30% on Rotten Tomatoes. Yikes. I won't.

But one I haven't talked about a lot on this a little bit though is blue chips. I think it has some of the greatest, like, in camera basketball. It's amazing. And Nick Nolte is great in it and so is Shaq, actually. So our final Now we've got to We gotta do our mouse at road ratings.

We gotta do it. We're putting it off. So we gotta do it. This episode out. You get to pick the order.

You get to pick the order here, Matt. Me? Men's first. I'm sticking at four. I like the four football bombs, You know?

I again, I feel like I'm gonna say this because I've said it before. It's, like, four four and a half are high scores for me. And it doesn't mean, like, it that it's not a five star movie. It does not it's not a knock on the movie at all in any way. Four four star is a very solid, enjoyable picture for me, and I will recommend this movie to people, which is I'm I'm happy you brought this because now I get to recommend this to, like, anyone.

Yeah. Well, who's next, Matt? You or I? Go ahead. Okay.

I'm with Ben on this one. I'm gonna stay at a four. I thought it was wonderful. I had a great time. I also would probably, depending on the person, also recommend it.

It's definitely for I love the movie We Came Together, the romantic comedy with Amy Poehler and Paul Rudd, but that's not for everybody. This is not for everybody for a lot of reasons, partly because this isn't a movie that's about throwing a blanket on something. It's it's got a lot of nuance. Yeah. It's a really nuanced take on this on the situation that everybody was really obsessed with in that time.

There's a part of me that wants to waffle, but I think ultimately, to Ben's point, if I rate something four stars or higher, if somebody said this won the Academy Award for x big category or Golden Globe for x big category, I'd go, yeah. Okay. Makes sense. And if you had told me this movie won a couple of those big awards, even based on some of the movies even based on Ben Hur Mhmm. Which is a fantastic film.

It just is. I would have believed you. So let's just say Peter Sellers actually won best supporting actor for Bobo. He didn't, but we'll say he did. Thank you, chat chat g p t for writing my review.

I feel like five is a hard thing to say. Like, you're sort of talking about what the top 20 movies ever made or something like that. Like, there's not that many I think Like, to say, like, it's that's a that's a I think it depends on the person. You can have five star movie and it doesn't have to be one of best movies ever made. Yeah.

But I feel like it's like, Clockwork Orange. Or like like like if it's something that's so, like, artistically and, like, to say five, I feel for me personally is, like, it has to be this sort of, like, you just never seen it before and it could only have ever been made one time by one person and maybe that kind of is like that, but it needed to be three hours long. You needed a Zack Snyder cut. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. The Zack Snyder cut. You make you make a perfect correlation when you said A Clockwork Orange. And I was saying we were talking about Doctor Strangelove through this episode, which is inevitable, with Peter Sellers. So it's like, do you give this movie, like, that little bump of credit where it's like, do I get doctor Strangelove?

Do I get Clockwork Orange without this? And it's like, it's hard to re rate these. It's hard. And I think if you I think it's it it could get up to four and a half if you talked about the historical context and the influence, definitely. But if it's standing alone by itself in a bubble, I think four is probably.

Yeah. I I'm gonna do one thing. I'm gonna move it from four Grand California annex to four Pinot Grand, Fen Oh, you're sticking with it. So the better quality the original. I'm gonna move it to the original.

The original recipe. Yeah. We're gonna go with original recipe. You gotta we just rank a high up to enter my throat. A reference he has no idea what was going on.

Is that Matthew McConaughey? Yes. Alright. Alright. Alright.

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